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sdmsanjose	Two questions	Lead	[-]
Posts: 982 (12/07/07 23:05:27) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	In my conversations with Greg I asked him the questions below. After I thought about it for a while I decide to ask these two questions on this board. Question 1 In your experience, what percentage of recovering addicts tend to dwell on and talk about the unhappyness that they experience rather than focus on and tell people about the positive that is happening in their lives as a result of recovery? Question 2 Also, I have heard it said by recovering addicts That everything is 10 times better with meth. They talk about sex and other euphoric experiences. If that is true how do recovering addicts deal with that? Stan
forget suzette	Re: Two questions	#1	[-]
Posts: 14845 (12/08/07 00:51:36) Retro Space Cadet Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	these are hard questions... Question 1 In your experience, what percentage of recovering addicts tend to dwell on and talk about the unhappyness that they experience rather than focus on and tell people about the positive that is happening in their lives as a result of recovery? guesses 40% are pretty ok, with their share of ups and downs regarding recovery 60% bytch and moan about it. ....but, level out in 4 years or so. Question 2 Also, I have heard it said by recovering addicts That everything is 10 times better with meth. They talk about sex and other euphoric experiences. If that is true how do recovering addicts deal with that? ....whatever is wrong with you becomes right for several years...then turns around and bites you... ....it becomes worse than before. but your brain thinks it WILL fix you AGAIN after down time. ......and it never does...it keeps getting worse. ....sex is intense, with powerful climaxes in the beginning, but it becomes very difficult to orgasm toward the end.... ....when you recover, you're so desensitized..sex is'nt very appealing. .... it's like a failed relatioinship. sex is great in the beginning...and you can never rekindle the "brand new in love" thing again.... .....but you tend to romantisize it, tho you can never go back to that.
Rubyy2zday	Re: Two questions	#2	[-]
Posts: 998 (12/08/07 01:53:21) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Question 1 In your experience, what percentage of recovering addicts tend to dwell on and talk about the unhappyness that they experience rather than focus on and tell people about the positive that is happening in their lives as a result of recovery? It varies between about 100% & 1% depending on how far along they are in their recovery. Question 2 Also, I have heard it said by recovering addicts That everything is 10 times better with meth. They talk about sex and other euphoric experiences. If that is true how do recovering addicts deal with that? Relapse! Until an addict realizes that hell that comes with the high is worst than all the REAL emotions that come with real life then they'll go back. An addict who continues to glorify and fantasize using will find their way back. It is my belief that once an addict always an addict (other disagree, that's fine), so I believe that until you find a healthy addiction you'll go back to what you knew. Many people find recovery &/or meetings to be their new passion... I find writing to be healing, I'm "addicted" to writing, to helping others, to yoga, to TV, to walking, to spaghetti, to volunteering, to making jewelry, to gaming, to reading, to healing, to group, to exercising, to learning...
Rocket57	interesting questions	#3	[-]
Posts: 424 (12/08/07 03:44:37) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Question 1 In your experience, what percentage of recovering addicts tend to dwell on and talk about the unhappyness that they experience rather than focus on and tell people about the positive that is happening in their lives as a result of recovery? I don't know...about half, I guess. Question 2 Also, I have heard it said by recovering addicts That everything is 10 times better with meth. They talk about sex and other euphoric experiences. If that is true how do recovering addicts deal with that? By remembering how ultimately speed was making life hell and not heaven like at first. But it is true about sex...it is hardly worth the effort without meth and it has been over a year clean for me. The most incredible thing I have ever experienced is orgasm while tweaked out of my mind. No contest.
Rubyy2zday	Re: interesting questions	#4	[-]
Posts: 998 (12/08/07 05:01:33) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	*Quote:* The most incredible thing I have ever experienced is orgasm while tweaked I know what you mean, but when I hear that it totally soundsl like a challenge!
nineyearsclean	Re: Two questions	#5	[-]
Posts: 7901 (12/08/07 10:22:59) Best Friend to KCI Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	*Quote:* Question 2 Also, I have heard it said by recovering addicts That everything is 10 times better with meth. They talk about sex and other euphoric experiences. If that is true how do recovering addicts deal with that? SOME things were phenomenal with meth, like sex. Other things were hideous with meth, like my relationship with the people I loved, like my attendance record at work, like my finances, like my values and morals and character and integrity and self esteem and appreciation for the beauty of life just as it is.
imlostinky	Re: Two questions	#6	[-]
Posts: 11225 (12/08/07 11:16:59) Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	*Quote:* Question 1 In your experience, what percentage of recovering addicts tend to dwell on and talk about the unhappyness that they experience rather than focus on and tell people about the positive that is happening in their lives as a result of recovery? Stan, it really depends I think on length of recovery time. There is a pink cloud that happens in the early months- positive all the way around- then reality comes in and life happens- it gets rough- then there is growth and awakening. I could not even begin to estimate a percentage. *Quote:* Question 2 Also, I have heard it said by recovering addicts That everything is 10 times better with meth. They talk about sex and other euphoric experiences. If that is true how do recovering addicts deal with that? The only thing that was remotely better for me when using was the color of my walls- those puppies were bright white sparkling clean. I just don't get excited about scrubbing walls anymore. I don't know why. Sex for me is much better clean and sober than when high. Life is better clean and sober than when high. The only thing I would still enjoy more high rather than clean and sober would be cleaning house. These days, as long as the health department wouldn't be called in , I am happy happy to go outside and play rather than stay behind closed doors smelling pine sol or bleach.
forget suzette	Re: Two questions	#7	[-]
Posts: 14845 (12/08/07 14:05:54) Retro Space Cadet Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	*Quote:* I know what you mean, but when I hear that it totally soundsl like a challenge ha ha ha! ...tell it! I'm in my prime!
lax2	Re: Two questions	#8	[-]
Posts: 2567 (12/08/07 14:20:43) Forum Friend Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Question 1 (A) Roughly the same percentage as in society in general. Some people look at the glass as being half full, the others see it as half empty. I think I am happy accentuating the good or positive things in life. Question 2 (A) LOL Oh THAT question... Hmmmm I guess I just do... by concentrating on the positives in my life. Sex will never be what it once was for me. But aside from my past use of meth as a culprit, I think that fact that I am nearing fifty undenyably has a hand in a lessened sex drive. Also sexually I feel a bit jaded... None of it is actually very new to me anymore. I was so focused on sexuality for so long that now I kinda feel Been there, Done that... I think the fact that I am no longer 15-40 has just as much to do with sex being less thrilling. Perhaps that is why Meth can be so attractive still to someone in their 40s and beyond, Mentally it stimulates the desire to focus on sex certainly, for many though by no means all of us.
JamieJ1979	Re: Two questions	#9	[-]
Posts: 926 (12/08/07 14:53:29) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	It really depends if the person is in recovery and how long they have been in recovery and if they are working a honest program of recovery. I don't like to tell war stories of "remember when" stuff. I prefer to talk about recovery and whats working for me and what I need help with. I like to live in the solution instead of problem. I like to talk about life as it is TODAY not how it was back when I was using. Years before I got into recovery I would glorify my drug use and have euphoric recall when talking about high times. When I got into recovery in July 06 I was so ready to stop using. I don't miss my old life at all. It was hell on a daily basis. I was strung out and walking the streets for money, in a domestic violence relationship, and miserable. So I'm grateful for my recovery. Jamie
xxaddict	Re: Two questions	#10	[-]
Posts: 856 (12/08/07 17:41:47) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Stan to tell you the truth I only know a very few people personally that have quit meth. And only one of them has quit all drugs. And as far as I know I am the only one who has chosen to share my life with others. To try and answer question #1 As for me I think I dwell on and talk about what I am feeling at the time. And I think for a couple years I wasn't recovering. And I was very unhappy. I focused on that a lot. I didnt know what to do about it. Let alone how to go about changing it. So that was what I talked about at that time. That's all I knew. And in an effort to survive that what I need to talk about. When I finely found myself recovering. I began to feel moments of happiness(or visa verse I'm not sure what happened). The more moments I had the more I tried to focus on what caused those moments. The more I realized what caused them the more I wanted to share what I felt. I really have no idea what other addicts feel they need to talk about. But for me I need to talk about what is going on in my life at that given time. Whether it be about me being happy or unhappy. I know I didnt do a very good job at answering but that's the best I can do right now. Question # 2 I dont know about everything being better. But everything seemed to be super interesting. To the point I wanted to do a dozen different things at the same time. I couldnt get enough of anything. And I wanted to do everything. That's why nothing got finished. My hands worked on 1 or 2 things at a time. And my mind worked on a 100. Always dragging me from one project to another. You could follow me around by the trail of destruction I left behind. As to how I now deal with it. Well Im still trying to work that out. For the longest time nothing was interesting clean. I didnt think I could have fun doing anything. But I think a lot of that was depression. Just like learning to be happy I am learning to enjoy activities. I think it is part of a total package. That I am just starting to unwrap. I hope my ramblings in some way answer your questions Stan. Greg

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