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I really hate opening the mail box these days....
In yesterday's crop of doom & gloom I found 3 more of the "prepaid" debit cards, addressed to my stepdaughter!! She's now been missing is
action for almost 2 weeks; ever since she bailed her stupid ass out of jail using her father's debit card numbers!
In addition to the 3 new prepaid (with stolen checks) debit card there was a "billing statement" from yet ANOTHER prepaid debit card. I couldn't
resist the need to know; and I reasoned with myself that the mail did have MY mailing address on it - so - I opened it! The account had had 7 deposits made
into it. All 7 of those deposits were later reversed as "returned payment" otherwise known as STOLEN checks!
There were 3 charges to Motel 6 and 2 charges to Public Storage. A bunch of withdrawls from ATM's. The statement ran THREE full pages!!! And all of the
transactions took place in a two day period!!
I didn't want to admit to opening the statement, for fear of triggering an argument with my husband about the evils of opening somebody else's mail,
but I told him. And surprisingly enough, he was okay with it. I showed him the 3 new cards that had arrived and he told me to mark them 'return to
sender' "not at this address" and "not authorized to use this address". I was shocked because just 3 weeks ago, before getting the bail
money ripoff, I told him that I was going to start returning any mail that arrived at our place, and he got really angry at me and said that was just wrong of
me.
Is it possible that he's beginning to see the light? I wonder. . . . . .
I'm really quite ignorant about how/where people go about making meth. But I wonder about the motel room? The Public Storage facility? Are those possible
locations that someone might go about it??
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Posts: 13 (03/25/08 16:30:46) |
I just realized that I forgot something. The total charges to this account was $2676.73!! That's in a 24 hour period!!
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Posts: 6748 (03/25/08 16:59:38) Forum Star |
I wonder namakimi, if your daughter knows my addict x....He has had girls paying for his storage units for years and he has had all sorts of other people's
debit cards(all women) in his car over the years and many of his "friends" stayed in motels. I think it's just part of the lifestyle that the
addicts get pulled into if they want to keep doing the drug they are addicted to.
Yes, in our area, Public Storage is a hotspot for cooking, storing stolen goods and supplies and dealing. Meth addicts I have known have stayed at their storage units all night and day....Also, storage units are hotspots for burglary and oftentimes it is unit renters that are robbing the others in the same complex. Please check into identity theft online and protect yourself/husband. I can't tell you how many meth addicts were in court all the times I went with my x and most were there on charges for meth AND identity theft, burglary and domestic violence. There are many protective measures you can take so that your daughter isn't tempted to just take advantage of easy money. I kind of think of all the times I've left my credit info and checks out in the open and even left my mail in an unlocked box as just enabling the meth addicts in the neighborhood. I have had my debit card, checks, credit cards stolen in the past. All by meth addicts. It's just part of the lifestyle. Maybe it's worse in our area, but from what I know, it's the same across the country. Your husband is seeing the light, it's just so bright it's painful. I often think of "seeing the light of meth addiction" as a glimpse into h3ll and I often had to look away, it was too ugly. luv |
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Posts: 39 (03/25/08 17:33:27) |
I used to somtimes make dope at hotel rooms and public storage facilities. As long as there is power running to the place then it's do-able. I remember
making it one time in a guys house who was letting me stay there after I was rendered homeless for making it at my own home. He did not even know I was
manufacturing it there, I was so addicted and decietful. It was being done ten feet from his computer desk and he was not even aware when sitting at his
computer. My point is where there is a will...there is a way. I am so ashamed that I took advantage of someone who was trying to help me. As a condition of
staying there I was supposed to be clean and I was actually making dope there.
I think that a lot of the identity theft for meth chemists is so that you can buy pseudoephedrine pills without having to use your own identity. Of course, a lot of it is just to scam to have money for dope as well. |
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Posts: 6398 (03/25/08 18:15:45) Moderator |
Identity theft is huge these days, with or without drugs in the picture.
I had my debit card number stolen once (not my card, which I still had, but the name, number, exp date, verification number). My best guess is that a waiter at a restaurant was getting paid to supply someone with all the card info he could gather. They ended up getting a finger print match off a receipt at Denny's. I was shocked that they had used an actual card. It wasn't a call in order, they presented a card to the waitress, and signed my name! Turned out to be part of a local case where a ring of criminals were stealing numbers and manufacturing fake cards with the valid names/numbers on them, then selling those stolen info cards on the black market. Not just a simple desperate thief, by any means. |
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Posts: 256 (03/25/08 18:44:57) |
Did you know it's against the law to intercept other people's mail and use the contents "to pry into the business or secrets of another?"
I'm not judging if you're right or wrong, but if she or he finds out and pursues it you could be considered the criminal. This snooping could blow up in your face, and I'd really hate that for you. My only advise is not to go around advertising/ bytching that you've found some ammunition against someone by using an illegal technique. Title 18, Part I, Chapter 83, 1702 Obstruction of Correspondence
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Posts: 1647 (03/25/08 19:38:59) Forum Friend |
Her days of cc fraud are numbered. She may be getting away with all of this fraud for awhile, but it will all catch up to her~believe me, I know all about cc
fraud. I work for a cc company, in the fraud department. I've heard it all. It's sad that people are so addicted to this frickin substance,(meth) that
they will risk going to prison over it~leaving children, family and friends behind and hurting.
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Posts: 6749 (03/25/08 21:19:58) Forum Star |
Somehow Eve, I truly think that a daughter's mail opened by a parent would not be considered tampering. That threatening statement sounds much like
something my addict x would tell his dope girls to say to their own family members when getting caught committing fraud. In fact I think I've heard them
say those same basic words in desperation when faced with their loss of their dope man.
Oftentimes stealing from family is the bottom for addicts especially if family turns it over to the police. I pray for that bottom for meth addicts as it's much safer than many I've seen. luv |
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Eve au naturel |
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Posts: 257 (03/26/08 01:05:14) |
luvepiphany wrote: I just figured that the daughter must be over 18 if she's getting offfers for credit cards. If she's 18+ she's considered an adult, and the
parents loose some rights legally to investigate/ snoop or intervene in such a way.
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Posts: 258 (03/26/08 02:41:44) |
namakimi wrote: P.s. I'm glad to read that you two have agreed to not allow her mail to be delivered at your address anymore. It would be a big temptation NOT to read her mail given the fact that she's already stolen her father's debit card number and is apparently running other illegal credit game. I fear that I originally missed the point of your post by focusing on a relatively small issue/ possible legal technicality such as the opening of mail.
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Posts: 6399 (03/26/08 04:05:21) Moderator |
I thought you made a good and valid point, Eve.
Sometimes the truth IS hard to read, and the truth is that it is illegal to open someone else's mail. It is a crime of compulsion -- the feeling of overwhelming need to do something even when you know it's not right. Addiction is also an act of compulsion for most people at some point. |
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