133fkariotboy wrote:
Follow any or all of the suggestions that have already been made to you.

If that's not an option, I strongly suggest that you use until it hurts, and f_ck until it hurts.

Worked for me.
ha ha ha!!!

"there he is! behind the dumpster"
................riotboy....you are always a delight to read!
I wish I could remember the thread....
....I think I do.....I'll try to find it.