i appreciate everyone's input and honesty, not that it will change much for her, right now, since it's been 4 week's since any of us has heard from her, i just hope and pray see has'nt went to slammin, her sister, think's she may have been doin it, the last time see hidout, by the way? she went downhill so fast back then, and i found a spoon in her purse,which i had never seen before, but there was no other's object's that i found, leading me to think she was slammin, but i don't think the spoon was'nt for fruit loops, and coco puff's either, but i have alway's takin my grandfather's advice: believe nothing you hear, and half of what you see. well i know what i've seen, and it don't look good, im just at the belief, if she has started slammin, the harder it may be for her to ever get to that place, of sustained recovery, after reading all the heart breaking stories, from this forum, i know this is gonna be a journey, i just hope, with a happy ending, i do thank all of you, cause as hard, as it has been, and the pain she has put me, and my children through, some of my anger, has turn to, sorrow and compassion, and i hope she live's to tell a good story of recovery someday, maybe even on this site. but for now, she is out there, lost in the wilderness, i just hope and pray god show's her the light, and bring's her out of it. Thanks again for the knowledge and wisdom, that all of you share, god bless.