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Robby99.bpdsanctuary |
My sobriety feels like it is fleeting... |
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Still struggling, have 116 days of clean and sober time but feel more and more each day that it is slipping away, I am doing the same behaviors that I did in
my addiction , I just have yet to pick up as of yet; I hope that I do not but feels like I am tired of being clean and missing Meth so much, I guess I miss the
sex and that whole scene the most and that keeps my mind thinking about going back to it. I know, I know - some here will wonder why I could possibly miss it,
I cannot explain why but I do and I feel that as humans we cannot control what we do and do not want but can control how we act, I am reading a book about
relapse and it shows how common feelings of relapse are, so that is comforting but I still am scared because more of me wants to return to the life and then
there is the fleeting part that wants to stay clean, Does anyone else ever feel it is slipping away, or am I alone here ? How do I not want it anymore, how
do I make it all go away
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forget suzette |
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me too.
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forget suzette |
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if you had one day to live, and you could do anything....
...would it be meth? it hates both our fuking guts. |
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lax2 |
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I admit alot of what you miss I remember as the most wild times I will likely ever have... but the reason I stopped were that it left me feeling empty and used
up... It was no longer any trade off for FEELING COMPLETELY LOST when spun or unspun...
You cant dwell on missing it without relapsing... so stop thinking you miss it...... it was killing you and eating you up inside... and probably leaving you a strung out homeless freindless mess on the dirty streets...feeling like SH!!!T... If you go back to using meth... your health and everything else you need to live is gonna go downhill fast and in flames... while you chase the XXX times that leave you feeling so empty & wasted... You can do whatever you want OR you can Miss & return to tweaked out... It's not worth wasting what precious life we have left in my opinion... It aint all thaT... I dunno what else to say Robby, but I dont wanna see you go back to using..... I wanna see you succeeed in staying clean.....u sure there are no meetings in Nicar.? www.AA.org or www.NA.org Hang on as if your life depends on it cuz it does... |
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TenderheartsKS |
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Yes I went through the same thing. Unfortunately I wasn't willing to do the work to get back on track, and then one day the 'I don't give a
damn' switch came on, and that's all she wrote...4 years out the window
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Victoria4120 |
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I still miss it too most of the time. Just the state of mind and how great it felt to take that first hit of meth. Random times I find myself recalling a time
when I was on meth and my heart will start to beat and I will start to fiend. Honestly I think that if I had one day to live and I could do anything...it would
be on meth...as awful as that sounds.
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chrisgonz |
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When your body has some clean time and you go back to using again...
it's harder each time on your system. It's that one last run between clean times where the ODs I know of have occured. My cousin had just gotten out of jail after 6 months and used and ODed. Some want to believe it was murder, as an ex shooter, I think it was an accidental OD. Not to scare you, just made me think about how going back and forth can be so deadly. Give yourself more time to keep healing, you'll see it does get easier. Trials, like the one you're going through, make us stronger if we keep with it. Things won't be the same without the dope. Friends, surroundings, hang outs, schedules... that all changes away from the drugs and sometimes it is boring. Maybe find another healthy interest. Reading is nice. Much peace and hope you get to feeling better. |
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Paws from hell |
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I am doing the same behaviors that I did in my addiction
Right there Rob ! I know how this phrase is pointing at me ! What are my behaviors that lead me to thinking I can do it again ? I feel for you buddy, I know exactly how it just starts to gnaw at you especially when I've had some clean time. It seems like that's when the defenses start to drop, I get some clean time and I start to get a bit cocky and let my defenses down because I seem to forget the horrible part of using. It's easy to romanticize the parts I thought were good, but actually it isn't the meth at all. I deluded myself into thinking that meth=great sex, funny I had great times sexually and I did meth but towards the end the two never at the same time. Chris is right on here Rob, after clean time our bodies just don't handle the same. After 2 yrs of being clean and then believing I could go out again well.. . the fantasy turned into a phantasm it never is the same, plus I
believe there is nothing worse than a body full of drugs and a head full of recovery.
It's true Rob, you only have to change one thing ............Everything ! I'm praying for you ( Yes, Arnell I pray .. ) I know it's possible to beat this, just don't wait as long as I did to find this as a truth for you . ! Don't lose everything to meth. |
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oaklandathletic |
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Co-signed^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The addiction wants you to remember the good times but what about all the strung out days and nights??? Think about all the negative parts of using.......I thought the sex was good using too but in the end it was hampering me....Recovery and using sure don't mix.....Paws said it the best...........When we have some recovery and we go back and use...the recovery part kinda messes of the using part...Not the same before recovery bug bit you.... I have heard plenty of stories about going out and it just not being the same since they started recovery...... Hang in there..It will get better I promise........ One day at a Time......
Paul |
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JamieJ1979 |
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The most important thing is to play the tape in your head all the way through to the end. Remember why you wanted to stop to begin with, remember how horrible
it had become, remember how desperate you were to get off the stuff. Most important of all remember this--what you are experiencing is called euphoric recall.
You are remembering a lie basically. Life wasn't good at the end of your last run. It was all fun and good times. Your mind may tell you it wasn't that
bad but that's your addiction talking. This is why abstinence alone doesn't work. You need something else in your life to keep you clean. That's
why NA and AA are there, so help the addict learn to be a part of society again. To identify with regular people instead of the druggie crowd. To learn new
coping skills, new ways of looking at a situation, new friends, new things to keep busy, it's all about shedding that old identity. In order for me to get
clean and stay clean I had to discard my old identity in order to gain a new one that I'm so happy with. I needed numerous resources for me to get clean
and stay clean. Outpatient treatment where I saw a drug counselor one on one and I participated in group therapy, acupuncture for cravings and stress, domestic
violence counseling and support groups to help me leave my ex who was very toxic for me, ending a toxic relationship with my ex, ending friendships with not
only addicts but others that had drama chaos filled lives, attending AA and getting a sponsor and working the steps, going back to school, getting out of the
adult entertainment industry, getting a regular job where I use my brain instead of my body, changing my diet, seeing a regular therapist one on one, getting
on antidepressants to avoid having a mental health relapse because that leads to a drug relapse because I end up trying to self medicate to feel better,
exercising, online support, getting help for my codependency, keeping a schedule, having a good support system, and much more.
See I found myself pregnant and strung out on crack and heroin. I had just gotten on methadone for my heroin addiction but I was still using the other stuff early on in my pregnancy. I knew I had to get clean because it wasn't fair to my unborn child. Plus I was embarassed that I was pregnant and kept getting dirty UA's and felt like the lowest person on the face of this earth. So I started attending a group that dealt with crack addiction among methadone patients. I applied myself and stopped using. I had a really good drug counselor that I saw every week. It was rough at first but I kept moving forward. In the beginning it was hard to feel any kind of pleasure and I often wanted to lay around in front of the t.v. but my family wouldn't let me--thank god. They would drag me out and in the end I always had a good time and was thankful they got me out of the house. I found out that inability to feel pleasure is extremely common. Once I started getting help and support from many different people and agencies I became more accountable. I had a lot of people involved in my care. I told them I needed help and took it when they offered it to me instead of insisting on doing it my way. I swear that without help I don't know if I would be here today. I just finished spring quarter at school and I'm a 4.0 student. I start summer school next week. I'm very focused on getting my education. I'm working on my 9th steps in AA with my sponsor. I have a wonderful boyfriend who has never used drugs and doesn't drink alcohol. Life is going really well. It can for you too but you have to put forth the effort to make it happen. Its tough at times but always worth it. Ask for some help, seek out some help, let it work for you. Good luck. We can get sober and we can live lives we never ever though possible. Work hard for it and it will happen. Thunderkiss |
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donnaeve |
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yes,me too
miss the sex[if only we never knew!] what i do now and its been said before here is . . play out the entire movie,not just the good parts coming down is fukking horrible . .you know it! i know it we all,us speedfreaks know it have patience,life goes fast enough and too long when you are sick . . and the shyte makes you soooo sick remember? |
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nineyearsclean |
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I am doing the same behaviors that I did in my addiction , I just have yet to pick up as of yet;
Change your behaviors. Plain and simple. That's my best advice. Get out of that mindset. Become the person you always wanted to be. |
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donnaeve |
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i believe you become what your thoughts are
that you can change your mindset . . .sure . .and choose to be what you put your mind too HOWEVER in early abstainance .. not using {which could lead to recovery or relapse} . . whatever . . we all try,right?or we wouldnt be here 'play that movie'from beginning to end-it is sooo helpful and something iv learned here which iv found to be invaluable {{{{hugs}}}robbie . .hang in there,brother i had thoughts f using yesterday immediately after experiencing a stressful situation thought it through right from beginning to end voila . . woke up this morning . . free . . the best nights sleep in ages 6 months going for a year
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johnnycell |
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I had some frinkin great sex on meth. I dated a porn actress before my wife. I even had great sex with myself when my wife decided she did not want me on meth
anymore. I had a whole collection of those pocket vaginas and a bigger collection of porn. woo-hoooo!
Honestly, you may never experience long sweaty nasty sex without meth. (unless you get ahold of some viagra). But, i also used to have that kind of sex without drugs. Im in my mid thirtys and my Mojo is starting to fade. But, thats just life. I do know for a fact that working out increases the Mojo. I had a booty call girl a few years back and i would go see her after a workout and a bottle of "ripped fuel". I swear that stuff is liquid meth. we had sex for like two hours until her stubble started to rub me raw. Meth is not the answer to any ANY challenge in life. Find another way!!! Do anything NOT to do meth !! |
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cymonne |
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i dont miss meth period, i dont miss the sex anymore, i guess cuz i had sooooooooooo much of it, and for me now with my clean time, empty sex really just
isnt a turn on, i got to have a connection, you need to stop looking at what you dont have, and look at what you do have, meth GIVES NOTHING .start working on
a recovery plan, start moving forward not backward. monne .
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le grumps |
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How are you doing today Rob?
Hopefully better? Sending lots of hugs (not drugs.) |
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JamieJ1979 |
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I used to work as a stripper, escort, and then I got into porn when I moved down to LA. I used to take E and smoke meth to numb out while doing a scene. The
sex was okay but since I've a recovering heroin addict I guess I liked the sex on heroin better. See the substance itself doesn't matter, for me it was
heroin, for you it may be meth. The point is we grew accustomed to having sex under the influence and sober sex is differently different. I'm approaching
my 30th birthday and I've been having the best sex of my life sober. I think it may have to do with the fact that in a relationship where I'm super
attracted to my partner and he is down for doing anything kinky like I am, I'm reaching that age for women where they experience their sexual peak usually
in their 30's, and we keep it interesting. Normal boring sex doesn't do it for it, it has to be deviant sex. Why??? I don't know, it's what I
like and my partner is down so that's all that matters to me. We are both okay with hiring an escort for a threesome since I like that stuff and so does
he. I would never bring a friend into something like that. It's best to keep it professional so there are no string attached. Maybe my thinking is all
messed up from being in the sex industry, or maybe I'm just not into conventional sex.
My partner is 44 and I'm 29 and we are an excellent match. Recovery takes work, so it makes sense that sex in recovery will take work too. I will have two years clean in July and there have been times where life has been crappy but I know that using will only make it a million times worse. Honestly it will. It's easy to remember the good times and forget the crappy times that way outnumbered the good times anyway. I couldn't get clean alone. At almost two years clean I'm still in outpatient drug treatment receiving counseling. I attend AA and work the steps with my sponsor. I have found new hobbies to fill my spare time. I see a regular therapist and a psych once a month. I'm on antidepressants because I suffer from low grade depression. I feel I have to keep my depression in check or else run the risk of relapsing on drugs to self medicate. What I'm saying is for me it took a multi faceted approach. Treatment alone didn't work, AA alone didn't work, antidepressants alone did nothing to help me, but all of that combined really worked for me. I had to learn basic life skills all over again. I went back to school and last quarter I got a 4.0. I was a down and out junkie walking the streets at the end of my addiction to make cash for dope. I was homeless for the first and last time and I was in a toxic domestic violence relationship. I couldn't ever keep a job as a stripper or escort because I couldn't keep any kind of schedule and that's bad if you can't keep a job in a industry full of flakes. Recovery isn't something you can be passive about. You have to take action, you're life depends on it. Relapse doesn't happen overnight, it starts with thoughts and then if you continue to not take action thoughts become actions. Before you know it you are back at square one. I haven't met anyone that relapses and comes back to recovery going on and on about how great it was. The common story is how horrible it was. Reach out and hit a meeting. Jamie |
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keepitsimpleforme |
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I get tired of reading about how great meth sex was/is. I am having alot of issues right now while my husband is in rehab. He dated a girl for 3 1/2 years.
They were ice buddies. I've heard all about their "meth sex". I'm VERY insecure about it. I believe in monogamous relationships and sex with
an emotional connection. I can't relate to meth sex. He did tell me it was not what I'm picturing (Romeo and Juliet) -- that he would yell at her in
the middle of it, etc.
I don't know -- I think there has to be a change in your moral fiber to get real recovery. I may get flamed for this but I have to say what I feel. You have to watch your thoughts and remember the bad times. Drugs/alcohol may feel really good but they ARE a mask. I also believe with all my heart that sex without drugs/alcohol is better. Call me stupid. |
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