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Posts: 178 (06/12/08 12:44:08) |
The rules are the rules and if i don't abide by them ...I deserve what is thrown my way........Why don't you all take the energy you have put into this
thread and go post for the addict that still suffers and WANTS help?
I agree Nobody the rules are the rules.......And they are Darrells rules and his site...Like it or not....... |
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Posts: 55 (06/12/08 12:54:08) |
I thought that's what I was doing...
He IS crying out for help...can't you see that? Everyone deserves a second, third, 8 millionth chance in my rule book.
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Posts: 563 (06/12/08 13:06:06) |
Wow! I don't know why anyone gets banned and it is none of my business why someone gets banned. That is between the person and the mods, or whomever does
the banning. The only thing I can add is that hopefully someone is informed ahead of time as to why they are banned. They have a right to know what led up to
the banning, what it is they did, and if there was one complaint or many complaints.
Broken: I hope that your life gets better for you. I can't claim to understand, but want you to know that you are in my thoughts. |
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Posts: 1740 (06/12/08 14:49:21) Forum Friend |
If Broken would have written the mods asking to come back, not pointing fingers, pushing all the blame on them, and everybody else, adding comments, about
deleting his post etc, it may have sounded an iota of sincere, and would have sounded like he wanted help. Instead they get a post that blames everyone else,
not an ounce, of responsibility for his actions...
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Mods, I have a question.....yesterday two months after being banned for no reason (they had reason) had I was told that I was banned because a couple of members had complained!! From what I have seen several people have complained about Loraura....will she be banned?(Loraura may have differences with others, but she has done nothing to be banned for) and if so will she get a PM, IM, email or something explaining why OR will you wait two months to anwser when things are falling down around you? I got no warning, there was no post referanced nothing! (does he really not know what post this was in regards to? hmmm) YES I ban people at my board because mine is a private board...( he has banned many people, including me for "petty" difference of opinions, private board or not, you don't treat your friends, that have stuck by you that way) KCI has been my home for over 4 years now and I have just as much as a right to be here as you mods or anyone else. (KCI only asks for members to be respectful ) I love the KCI that I once knew....I am not trying to harm or hurt anyone...I just want to see the KCI that welcomed me an active using drug dealer. KCI is my tool to recovery, im an addict who is using on a weekly basis.....whats more important....your grudges, your power trips, your rules. (that was quite negative and projecting) Yep there where times in the past when I was banned and deserved it....this time I did nothing wrong...this time it was because of a personal complaint. Its not right that I was banned......its not right that for two months no one said why. Its not right that mods are not held to the same standards. (the mods may have differences with people, but do not do anything worthy of banning) But hell lets look the other way because there our friends....while addicts are either ran, banned or hen pecked to death until they leave. (that wasn't a positve thing to say when ya wanna come back) Lets question people like Charliexoxo about her clean time and embarrass her so that she doesnt post anymore and then when its brought to your attention go on to defend your position and not give a damn about her feelings. (whenever Sarah/Charlie comes back she is shooting rude comments~she causes her own problems) Being right isnt always the thing to do. NOW....go ahead and delete this because its not what you want folks to read..... (another negative slam) Broken
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Posts: 191 (06/12/08 15:30:10) |
Co-signed^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ and this is my last post in this thread.............
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Posts: 363 (06/12/08 15:38:38) |
and here's broken's:
I need someone to post a reply. Pen - Thats a LIE your PM's are not plastered on my board anywhere!!! Every member of my board can tell you that. Justcats - I kept my mouth shut for two months. I asked penelope why I was banned in PM, she told me ask Darrell, I emailed Darrell with no anwser, this week after two months I asked Penelope again and YES I posted it on the board.....get your facts stright please. I waited 2 months and acted very well compaired to the past when I would hack in time & again. When penelope shared with me the fact that two mods are whats keeping me still banned and NOT darrell....it pissed me off and yes I brought it to the board at KCI for the members to have a say. Paul who are you to judge if I WANT help or not? I asked the mods to come back because KCI helped me get clean in the past and I thought it would again....but Im starting to think I was wrong. To many people like yourself, just cats and logo have grudges with me and dont care what is right and what is not! SO have KCI...If anyone ANYONE came to me and asked to be unbanned from my board they would be, IF an active addict came to my board they would be welcomed back in a heartbeat!!! Broken note from me: IF ya just unban him he could post himself. His time IS up. |
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Posts: 56 (06/12/08 16:05:05) |
Co-signed^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ and this is my last post in this thread.............
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Posts: 274 (06/12/08 17:58:05) |
For whoever is passing this thread to Broken please pass onto him that I have no resentment towards him. I hope he can get clean with or without kci.
It is my belief that if he is still banned it must be because he has not demonstrated readiness to participate without the drama. If he wants to come back and fight with the mods or other members I can understand why his ban has not been removed. If he wanted to lay down the verbal bricks and bats and use kci for recovering that is one thing but from the post I see below - because Sharon, Paul and I don't agree with attacking the decisions of the Mods and acknowledge that we don't know all the facts does not mean we are against him personally or have a grudge. When we point out that he has banned us without explanation or for far more minor things than he has done here all we are doing is pointing out that he is asking to be treated differently and better than he treats others. Why should the rules for Broken be different than for anyone else? I have no grudge with him or anyone. I wish him well and hope he makes it out of meth hell. Marcel always said - from what I remember - that he was unwilling to go to meetings or do anything but online recovery. Possibly through his own behaviour the universe is closing those doors more and more, thereby forcing him to either get out from behind the laptop and out into the offline world for some recovery face to face with people he has to look in the eye. I know I was only too willing to befriend him when he lived nearby and made the trip to his neighborhood a few times but he would not come down to meet me and so much as share a cup of coffee even once. Quite possibly he feels safe throwing verbal barbs and hooks at people from behind a computer screen and knows he wouldn't be brave enough to behave that way in face to face interactions. Who knows - just some pondering.... Well Texazzzzz - sleep sweet and I hope tomorrow is another clean day for you wherever you are. |
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Posts: 1265 (06/12/08 18:07:42) Forum Friend |
Broken can READ at KCI all he wants!!! He just can't post (unless he get's someone else to do it for him).
This is kinda like a scence....Broken, if you can hear me....knock 3 times on the ceiling |
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Posts: 276 (06/12/08 18:09:41) |
ROFLMAO - that's why i got an instant reply to my post.
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Posts: 364 (06/12/08 18:40:24) |
logo..
you don't know why broken is banned or why Tender and Loraura are opposed to letting him back in and neither do you Paul. You can laugh all you want and be mad because your friendships didn't pan out with him... that's on you. We're talking about banning in general and broken is the perfect example how the double standards work here. You bytch about people posting stuff and here you are posting more than most. Blah, blah, blah... you have no idea what you're talking about in regards to this ban... so quit kissing up to the mods to make yourselves look good. You said before Logo, the decision was wrong and now here you are laughing about the same situation. wishy washy at it's finest!! |
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Posts: 279 (06/12/08 18:43:40) |
when did I say it was wrong?
edted to say - : previously I wrote: Chris - I believe that the reasons for how banning is done in general should be clear, yes. Do I think the particulars of each case need to be opened up for discussion, no. Also - it might be helpful if someone is banned and it is indefinite - that should be understood as to why versus a particular time period which seems what the structure is now... So if it becomes ongoing - why is a valid question - but it should be again - principles and not about a particular person. I will say that ANYONE in the position of Mod having to enforce the policies is going to come up for a lot of flack .... Chris - you write: logo.. you don't know why broken is banned or why Tender and Loraura are opposed to letting him back in and neither do you Paul. exactly and you don't know all the facts either You can laugh all you want and be mad because your friendships didn't pan out with him... that's on you. That is your assumption, I was laughing about Phoenix's comment about knocking... We're talking about banning in general and broken is the perfect example how the double standards work here. Yes he wants a double standard for himself You bytch about people posting stuff and here you are posting more than most. Where do i bytch about that - and are you trying to silence me because you don't like what I have to say? Are you wanting to do the very thing you are complaining others do? Blah, blah, blah... you have no idea what you're talking about in regards to this ban... so quit kissing up to the mods to make yourselves look good. You said before Logo, the decision was wrong and now here you are laughing about the same situation. Again - I never said it was wrong - you read too much into others' posts without making sure what you think they are saying is correct. And furthermore - because I don't agree with you that means I'm kissing up to the Mods? WOW ... I can't have my own thoughts and opinions unless they match yours... wishy washy at it's finest!! No - Very clear if you read without an agenda. Edited for readability - I found a better web browser!!!
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Posts: 1682 (06/12/08 19:31:19) Moderator |
you don't know why broken is banned or why Tender and Loraura are opposed to letting him back in You don't know half of what you think you know. You aren't in my head, and to presume that myself and Loraura are the two wicked witches who aren't letting him back in, when in fact that is not the case, but rather now it's he said/she said, and by golly that's good enough for you, well...that does say something, doesn't it? I'm sure you'll find the appropriate interpretation for that. I hold no grudges, I bear no resentments. I threw 4 years of recovery out the window over resentments and a multitude of other things that I knew better than to hang on to. Are there days I allow folks disturb my peace of mind? Of course. I'm only human. I get over it, and quickly. I'd like to see anyone here tell me they never ever get upset with other people. Bottom line is I hold my recovery in the palm of my hand like the precious seed that it is, and I'm not letting go of my recovery or the principles behind it for anyone. That includes confidentiality, and as I said in another thread, I'll take the beating before I violate anyone's confidentiality. |
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Posts: 280 (06/12/08 19:59:38) |
This thought was raised by Phoenix's comment that Broken (so I assume anyone who has been banned is in the same boat) can still read the posts/threads...
Since Broken (and anyone that is banned) can still read the boards in alot of ways the value he wants to get from KCI - help in recovery - is still available to him and since he can PM he can always turn to those whose opinion he values in order to get input for specific issues he has - correct? So the only thing someone banned can't do is post - correct? |
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Posts: 14487 (06/12/08 20:34:09) Retro Space Cadet |
softly and sincerely, can I ask xgonz, why do you hate everyones replies?
....they're newbees .....freedom to post was part of the issue. was'nt it? |
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Posts: 571 (06/12/08 20:56:02) |
There's a new rule about posting pm's.....not allowed...but people who are banned (for what ever reason, justified or not) are allowed to messege right
on through.
wow. curiouser and curiouser |
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Posts: 365 (06/12/08 21:51:33) |
I don't hate everyone's replies suzie. Why do you interpret my reponses as hateful??
I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting the same rules applied to everyone the same. I don't think it's right to attack anyone at all... not even the mods. IF our current mods would stick with rules for everyone and quit changing up reasons for bans per person. Anyway, it's cool. I'm basically just watching it all go down in flames actually. Broken should be able to post himself Missy, he was banned for 2 months and never told why. His 2 months is up and apparently there are two mods opposed to lifting the ban. Again, that was his last post on this thread and I'm just answering suz and missy. Logo... I'm through with you ok, so don't waste your time with all the highlighting hon... I didn't even read it. The focus of this thread, FYI... Is why can't broken post still?? How else is he going to get a straight answer... he hasn't gotten one from the mods in 2 months, he waited patiently to come back and then when it was time to open the doors for him.... the mods refuse to stick with the original ban rules we had/have. and if nobody likes what I'm writing... don't read the thread... it's your choice to read, I'm not forcing you to focus H E R E. LMAO!!!! |
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Posts: 7171 (06/13/08 04:34:02) Moderator |
Fact: Broken is not on a 60 day ban and was never told his ban would be for 60 days.
Fact: Active drug use can cause paranoia and poor reading comprehension skills. Fact: The mod team is in 100 percent agreement on his status. |
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Posts: 629 (06/13/08 05:10:20) |
Hey you two...........I just wanted to point something out.
Without talking face to face or hearing someone's voice (tone) over the phone..............it is so easy to be misinterpreted. I know I am the QUEEN of punctuation and spelling errors. I think you both are great and I know if you give one another a chance you will not have these issues. If have offend you by stepping in, I am truly sorry.........that is not my intent. I just wanted to share with you I recently learned that will stick in my mind forever. This how different we can come across and it sooooooooooooo easy to do. I wish you both peace. These two sentences have TOTAL different meanings, yet they are exactly the same words.......the tone is different (punctuation) Woman without her man is nothing
Woman, without her, man is nothing |
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Posts: 58 (06/13/08 05:42:17) |
I know I cosigned that I was done with this thread, but at the time I thought I was. I changed my mind...
Suggestion: Maybe a mod could respond to Broken's pm's, COMMUNICATE with him as to the terms of his ban. If he's on a 90 day, let him know that. Also when one is banned, shouldn't it be common practice to let the person know immediately what they did wrong, & the length of its duration? He's in the dark here. This whole thread could have been avoided with simple communication. And I would have had no part in it. Lots of people's feelings wouldn't have been hurt. I know he finally found out WHY, but he thought it was only for 60 days. I don't think he's keeping track of how many times he's been banned. I put this all out here because I for one care. I have heard his cries for help. He isn't in a recovery program, THIS is his recovery program. Quote: Fact: Active drug use can cause paranoia and poor reading comprehension skills. In my opinion Loraura, it sounds like you look down on the active users. I hear no compassion from you, and it was the same with Charliexoxo...questioning her on her clean time. If you are here to help, please quit throwing your little digs in. If I get this impression (I am a loved one, not an addict), I'm sure that some of the new comers may read it that way too. Hurting for you makes a very valid point. Edited to correct spelling error.
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