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caligirlsyd |
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danimal55 |
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dedicated to all of us...
Can We Still Be Friends by Todd Rundgren We cant play this game anymore But can we still be friends Things just cant go on like before But can we still be friends We had something to learn Now its time for the wheel to turn Grains of sand, one by one Before you know it, all gone Lets admit we made a mistake But can we still be friends Heartbreaks never easy to take But can we still be friends Its a strange, sad affair Sometimes seems like we just dont care Dont waste time feeling hurt Weve been through hell together Can we still get together sometime You know life will still go on and on and on We awoke from our dream Things are not always what they seem Memories linger on Its like a sweet, sad old song |
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forget suzette |
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.....are you saying that you are getting angry pms also????
yep |
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smilewasmask |
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Oh, Suzie, I am sorry that you are getting angry PMs.......
After I posted las night , I kept thinking about this thread..... And I said to myself....Silly Girl....... *If you can't take it any longer, then just stop reading The Threads that Pertain* ....and then as I continued to think about Things, I even thought .... .....Yowzers! It almost feels like a Mole Situation....or Troll.....whatever those sorts are called......... So here I sit with my Morning Coffee and of course I go to this thread.......first .........I just HAD to peek............
And I see Caligirlsyd video and now YET ANOTHER feeling surfaces...... .......and I am transfered back to a personal experience that relates to This Thread... That experience was A Crossroad for me...... .....A Critical Juncture.......an Epiphany , if you will.......... And I don't think that I quite understood The Significance of that Personal Moment until just this morning, after viewing that video..... ....in this thread.......... I will try to be brief and to the point...... My name is Roxi. I used meth for 10 years, from age 40 to age 50. I have been incarcerated 4 times. I have been to inpatient treatment once for 30 daze....and I have been through 3 other outpatient treatment programs. We had a lovely Farm......with Children, Dogs, Cats , Chickens , Ducks, Salamanders, Flowers, Oak Trees, A Big Burn Pile, Raspberries, Mullberries, ......Blankets , Quilts , Dishes.......I had EVERYTHING a Girl could ever hope for........everything........ ......except freedom from addiction. ......and well, as they say *Play....you Pay*........and *Don't do The Crime ...if you can't do The Time*..... And so Off to Jail I went. I was pretty sad just before I had gone in....my children were old enough to have fled the coop....not Really Old enough... But They Flew anyway..... So now Our Lovely Farm was starting to feel Empty and Sad.... But it was Still Home...and I still had Visions of Future Times.....Without Dope....I clung to Dreams I Lived in Fantasy .....Fruitlessly Waiting for The Children to Come back..... ...we would show Them....we could Start Over......please come back....I would sit by the window and think.....and sigh...... I KNEW that I had to Change. I KNEW that I had to Choose. I KNEW that I was Done. I KNEW that I could pull this Quitting Meth off..... And so it was Off to Jail for those 6 months..... I felt kind of Free Already......cuz I KNEW! I was going to Get Through This and Get Back to Our Lovely Farm and Show Those Kids that I COULD DO THIS!!! But what I found was .....While I could control MY Actions, I could NOT Control Anybody Elses Actions...... And while I was In The Big House......SOMEbody just kept on using meth in my house...on my farm....even tho I was SO Sad and SO Incarcerated.....Anybody did not Care and Everybody just kept Killing Themselves at my Lovely Farm.... And when The Law came busting through the door.... This Time , it was The Big One....and The Law found what they had been looking for and They took my husband Away.... He is still Gone, *Safe* in Prison....but Gone from us...... And since he was gone...... Some of The People got Real Mad. And for whatever reasons those People who were Mad... Well those people Trashed my Home....with a Capital T......TRASHED.... And took what they wanted and broke the rest..... They broke all my windows....all my dishes ...most of my cats .... ....They threw my quilts and blankets out of the upstairs windows....they sold all of my metal parts.....piled up my kid's artwork..... Let me tell you What.....Those Angry People wreaked Havoc !! So when I got out of Jail ....my Family Pleaded with me.....*Don't Go Back* *Nothing is Left* *You don't want to see it like that* *You will get so Angry* *Mom.......don't go......* But of course.....I just HAD to peek........ I made them drop me off......*I WANT TO BE ALONE!!!!* I walked through that door... And Took it Straight in The Heart. I Looked my Past Right Squarely in the Eye. I Faced my Fear. I collapsed in my husband's Chair and Sobbed. I fell asleep , in my husband's Chair.....and I Slept as if I were sleeping my Last Sleep.... Even the noise of The Big Machine just outside the door did not wake me up..... The Big Machine was digging a Big Hole.....a Grave for my Lovely House. They said I would be OK ....that they would wait until that day was over before they put my house out of its Misery.... Before they Knocked my House off its Block and Buried it in The Big Hole..... They let me say Good by. And so soon it was Dusk. And The Color of Angels was Streaming down through the trees... And it was time to go. The epiphany was this..... When I woke up from that Last Sleep , and opened my eyes ....and remembered where i was....and saw the Chaos and Giant Mess I realized that I was NOT Mad at all.... I realized that whomever had done this for Whatever Reasons..... Somebody had done me A HUGE Favor..... I felt as if my Karmic Debt had a HUGE Chunk Paid off........ I could almost hear the Glass Shattering..... ....with each swipe of the bat that they used....each bottle smashing to the ground....well it was really like music.... Like a thousand crystaline bells dancing upon an alpine lake shore.... Really , it was music to my soul..... I was not mad....not really even sad..... I was just plain relieved that I could recognize my Personal Growth. So I got up, shook the dust off...walked out that door and I never looked back. My family waited for me ....like .....*Are You OK?* and *Why are you SO calm...?* .........*stops and takes a breath and realizes that one is off on yet ANOTHER Tangent*............. .........and will sign off for now, just hoping and wishing that we can all recognize Personal Growth and move on. .....and YES, DANIMAL, WE CAN STILL BE FRIENDS! PEACE and Love YOUR WAY. Sincerely, smile |
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1tamtom |
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ya know if everyone takes away the stick folks can't stir up the sh*t,unless ya like that kinda thing.
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AWESOME Post Smile!!.......Wow!! That hit me right in the heart strings.....While I wanted to say how sorry I am........I think i will just say ..........You
sure have grown sooo much since getting away from Meth.....I can read it.....You read like your at peace inside...No more waging a war within.......Thanks for
sharing that with me.....I got alot out of it..
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forget suzette |
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nevermind..
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no more mething around |
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yep - nevermind
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chrisgonz |
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The best way, IMO, to address someone you may think is an enemy or war monger, is to ask them their motives.
Just because a name or idea isn't familiar does not make them or it unapproachable... fear of the unknown can often spin ones thoughts into chaos. Hey Lisa... Good to see ya posting hon!! |
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no more mething around |
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(((((((((CHRIS)))))))
Good to see you back love ! Shhhhhhhh....you don't see me. |
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chrisgonz |
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ok Lisa...
I don't see youuuu. lol You always make me laugh. {{{hugs}}} back to ya!! |
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missybuns |
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I have amends to make. I am posting this to admit I've been wrong to mention anything of what it says in twelve-step literature. I have mentioned
specific parts of some recovery literature in a recent reply to a post here at KCI. I know KCI is not a 12 step site and I apologize to any 12 step members
of this community for going against what our traditions suggest we ought to do (or not do). I have done this on a couple of occasions here at this site and
now realize I was wrong to do that. I will no longer make references to specific pieces of 12 step literature at this site.
Sincerely, Missybuns |
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logolove |
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Missybuns- 12 steps worked for me and for a lot of people and I don't see mention of where how you recovered is not to be talked about.
In the posting guidelines it says: Respect all forms of personal recovery. In the being on Topic section it mentions - suggestions on dealing with drug abuse, abuse, addiction or recovery. I see that as complete permission to discuss what worked for you in order to share it so that someone struggling may also find recovery - 12 step programs are for many people the source of their recovery and you should feel free to discuss it. Don't be driven away by a few - there are many you help. You just don't always have them jumping up an down telling you - IMO unhappy people are usually the most disruptive, angry, negative and unforgiving. Generally those in need of recovery - which does not mean they are not clean - just have not recovered good living with others skills ... The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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no more mething around |
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It takes a strong man to stand up for himself - but an even stronger one to stand up for others.
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missybuns |
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I am fine to talk about what works for me and to say I'm a 12 stepper. However it is not appropriate to quote the text/literature directly. If anyone
would like to further discuss 12 step traditions feel free to PM me.
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Penel0pe |
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Each group's primary purpose is to carry the message to the addict who still suffers - and this isn't an NA group, Missy is right about that. So, while
we are not supposed to reprint NA literature without permission ( reprinting NA Fellowship - Approved
Literature,) it is available for online reading at the NA world services site:
NA Literature NA is for those who want it. If anyone is interested in the literature, our World Services Office has made it available for anyone to view at the link above. Sharing what works for me is the only thing I have to offer! Carrying the message of recovery by sharing my experience, strength, and hope is what I have been taught repeatedly as a member of NA. That is how I share with others how I was able to stop using, and the only answer I have is that I am a member of NA. I do not speak for NA. The literature does, though. If you are not interested in NA literature, I would encourage you to simply disregard this post, the links above, and move on to something that you are interested in. |
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