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lynne |
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i just wonder how much guilt plays a role in hindering recovery. i know when i have promised myself to correct a behavior, and i fail, the guilt was worse than
the entire failure ... which led to feeling even worse ... etc; a downward slide could ensue ... must be tremedous and automatic guilt when someone relapses
... also a lot of guilt about having been an addict and the mistakes one made during addiction while being clean ... feling guilty as hell is no fun. would
eliminating the guilt be a good idea? if one is trying to quit and be clean anyway?
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Guilt was a huge driving force in my active addiction, and after I got clean, I realized I couldn't continue to carry that overwhelming guilt around.
Working a 12 step program resolved that guilt for me. I still have guilt, but I consider it a healthy guilt in that I do remember what I was like, and do not want to return to active addiction. It isn't the kind of guilt that used to eat my lunch every day, if that makes any sense |
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As I continued in my own program of recovery using the 12 steps and the program, I also learned how to get rid of the useless and undeserved guilt. I also
came to understand the meth addict Much better because we both thrived on guilt, it just came from different places.
I think that Not taking on or holding onto guilt is one of the best things I've learned in my recovery. I can now see it before it takes hold in many areas of my life. I specifically am better about not taking on needless guilt for my kids' problems or mistakes-that's a hard one, but I'm much better. Also, if someone is sick that I love, even my doggie, I don't automatically feel guilty for Not doing enough. In turn, if I do something bad or hurtful to someone else, I have tools in the 12 steps to systematically deal with it and keep that dumb "guilt" from hurting me and in turn others. I guess this is where I really see that I can't really deal with an addict not in recovery because I know that they are going to be fighting with all that guilt in their own head and I can't do a single thing about it. No reason to have contact with someone who isn't willing to work on solutions. hi lynne luv |
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Guilt has taken its toll on my in my recovery a few times. Sometimes I feel I can save the world, only to find that I can only save myself and that is it. I
have felt guilt from past experiences in active addiction, only to have God to remind me that these experiences are a part of me. And without them I
wouldn't be the person I am now. And to use them as ways of helping others. You see when I was young , someone I was related to did some horrible things
to me. I carried this with me my entire life. Feeling guilt from it.....making it my fault. Using drugs as a way out of feeling the guilt.
Everytime I let this guilt enter back into my life I ask God "what can I learn from this?" He usually answers by bringing someone into my life who needs help with similiar past experiences. I am far from perfect and I do fall back into the guilt stages from time to time, but as I walk down the path that my Higher Power has laid in front of me .......I will learn and grow. It is "Progress NOT Perfection" Love, Deb |
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forget suzette |
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Guilt is anger directed at ourselves--at what we did or did not do. Resentment is anger directed at others--at what they did or did not do. The process of guilt and resentment is the same: We have an image that either we or others should live up to. (An image of all the should's, must's, have-to's, and demands we
learned or created about our own and/or others' behavior.)
Stop. Don't do anything. You are at a choice point. You have two ways to go. One choice equals freedom. The other choice equals misery--familiar misery, but misery nonetheless. Look. What image (expectation, belief, should, must, ought-to) about either yourself or another is about to be (or has recently been) violated? ("People should drive carefully." "I mustn't eat cake if I'm on a diet.") Change. What do you change?
But what do we often do with the image that is proven--conclusively--to be inaccurate?
Can you see the absurdity of this? We demand that our illusion (our image) be more real than reality (what
actually happened), hurting ourselves in the process.
Second, anger is a habit. We learned it early on--before we could walk or talk, in some instances.
Third, guilt and resentment give us (and others) permission to do it
again. Far from preventing a recurrence, the punishment simply lets the person (either you or another) say, "I've paid my dues; now I'm
free to do it again." Many people weigh the guilt they will feel against the pleasure of the forbidden action they want to take. As long as they're
willing to "pay the price," the action's okay. People often ponder the anticipated wrath of another before taking certain actions. "If
I'm five minutes late, he'll be a little mad." They make a choice between another's resentment and whatever it is that might make them five
minutes late. If they're willing to endure the chastisement, they reason, it's okay to be late. Guilt and resentment, then, far from preventing
"evil,"* perpetuate it.
Well, it's a good start. If we don't do something because we're afraid of the guilt, we are, in fact, being motivated by fear and
guilt. If we do good because we fear what might happen to us if we don't do good, the act of good is tainted with fear.
So what can we use to motivate ourselves to do good?
Another great motivator is love. Love yourself enough to stay on the diet because you love your body and want to keep it healthy. More on this and other positive motivators later, along with the cure for guilt and resentment. The cure for guilt and resentment? Forgiveness. The preventative? Acceptance. The best reason to do good? Loving. And if you forget any of this, just before you veer off-course,with that first twinge of guilt or resentment,
.............Your answer will always be respected. Life 101
Last Edited By: forget suzette
05/16/08 11:09:03.
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lynne |
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i'd rather be happy any day of my life than right. anyday.
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forget suzette |
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*hugs*
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starfishlover123 |
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Lynne,
Would illiminating the guilt help keep one from relapsing? If there is no guilt or remorse over one's behavior, then why stop the behavior? Of course, I do believe that guilt keeps some mired in the addiction, but without it, who would ever recover? At some point, guilt becomes unhealthy, (like getting stuck in a stage of mourning,) but it seems as if it needs to be a part of "healthy recovery" for anyone, and cannot be illiminated - thus the steps. . . JMHO, Star |
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lynne |
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perhaps having a "conscience" about what we do rather than that heavy, laden word of "guilt" would be a better substitute. we all need
those advisors in our head steering us on the right course.
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luvepiphany |
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yes, the word "guilt" has mistakenly and humanly been mixed up with the word "conscience" since......way back.
I don't know my language roots, but I don't think the two are actually supposed to be linked. luv |
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