Yesterday's mail

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feeds@yuku.com (LdyOfWzdm) — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:37:42 GMT

Me three....
with tears in my eyes.

I know just where your husband is...
right there at the edge trying not to fall.

Struggeling to stay out of METH HELL!

I've often heard that "losing a child is one of the most difficult things to go through"....
I know that losing a child to meth has been THE most difficult thing I've gone through so far.

In my own mind it seems worse than death...
as there seems to be no end......

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feeds@yuku.com (luvepiphany) — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:35:33 GMT

I have tears in my eyes too.

luv

I have a special special soft spot in my heart for fathers of meth addicts.....especially stubborn ones.
I love it when they are softened, even if it hurts, because It Is A Start-A Big Start!

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feeds@yuku.com (Hurting for YOU) — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:58:56 GMT

((((((((((hugs))))))))))) and tears! I know you will survive.........we all will together!

I am speachless!!!!!!!!!!! just know that you and your hubby are in my thoughts!

Katie

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feeds@yuku.com (namakimi) — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:42:10 GMT

Hurting-

I know that what you're saying is right. I just had that talk with myself this morning. But the fact remains that YES, I AM angry!!! And it's not so much all of the financial crap she's put us through; I know that can all be worked out, eventually.

What really gets to me is that I'm the one that lives day in and day out watching the man that I love die a little every day. I HATE that she has caused him so much pain and heartache. And it tears me...

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feeds@yuku.com (luvepiphany) — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:16:18 GMT

Well good namakimi, I'm glad the evidence is showing itself to your husband. I swear, when I think I'm going to explode by not having any control over issues, and I give it to God and say, "I can't do it!!!!!" He really always seems to come through...or at least something seems to happen. Oftentimes it is more bad news, but Light being shed on evil and darkness works Wonders to keep things moving.

An alanon daily reader is called "Courage To...

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feeds@yuku.com (Hurting for YOU) — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:22:08 GMT

Namakimi................as I have (am still) learning..............she may can hurt you financially, but she can not take anyway YOUR happiness, unless you let her.

Trust me......read some of my post........I feel your pain, but at some point you have to let go of the anger! It will eat you up and spit you out!

She is "sick" and right now she is making you "sick".............only you have the power to seek recovery for yourself.

Does this make...

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feeds@yuku.com (namakimi) — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:13:14 GMT

Wow! I'm a bit surprised to have triggered such a debate about mail tampering! Please understand, I'm not ignorant when it comes to the law. I was well aware of what I was doing; and it wasn't a decision that I made easily. However, that being said, I wouldn't un-do it if I could. FINALLY, my husband has seen solid evidence that the things that he's accused me of "being unable to trust" and "being overly suspicious" are true and real when it comes to...

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feeds@yuku.com (mcr) — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 05:50:51 GMT

I think it can be well argued that ur actions of opening the mail do not fall w/ in the restrictions laid out by the staute:
"w/ the with design to obstruct the correspondence, or to pry into the business or secrets of another...".
You were not obstructing the correspondence or prying into the business of, you were confirming a drug addiction and possible illegal activity in order to make a reasoned decision abt the addict. Moreover, the spirit of the statute is to prevent...

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feeds@yuku.com (keepitsimpleforme) — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 05:44:40 GMT

My stbx was into stealing checks BIGTIME. Him adn his drug buddies would go in people's mailboxes, etc. He never got caught. But, he did get caught stealing like $20,000 from his MOTHER'S checking account. He stole checks from her alllllllllllllll the time. Such a thief.

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feeds@yuku.com (demodebi) — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:57:51 GMT

We had mail opened maliciously once...and the po could do NOTHING about it....

I'm glad your husband told you to do that...it is the hardest thing to *let go*....sometimes it's a little at a time other times it's done in one hugh step...

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feeds@yuku.com (Loraura) — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:05:21 GMT

I thought you made a good and valid point, Eve.

Sometimes the truth IS hard to read, and the truth is that it is illegal to open someone else's mail.

It is a crime of compulsion -- the feeling of overwhelming need to do something even when you know it's not right. Addiction is also an act of compulsion for most people at some point.

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feeds@yuku.com (Eve au naturel) — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:41:44 GMT

namakimi wrote:
I didn't want to admit to opening the statement, for fear of triggering an argument with my husband about the evils of opening somebody else's mail, but I told him. And surprisingly enough, he was okay with it. I showed him the 3 new cards that had arrived and he told me to mark them 'return to sender' "not at this address" and "not authorized to use this...

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feeds@yuku.com (Eve au naturel) — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:05:14 GMT

luvepiphany wrote:
Somehow Eve, I truly think that a daughter's mail opened by a parent would not be considered tampering. That threatening statement sounds much like something my addict x would tell his dope girls to say to their own family members when getting caught committing fraud. In fact I think I've heard them say those same basic words in desperation when faced with their loss of their dope man.
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feeds@yuku.com (luvepiphany) — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:19:58 GMT
Somehow Eve, I truly think that a daughter's mail opened by a parent would not be considered tampering. That threatening statement sounds much like something my addict x would tell his dope girls to say to their own family members when getting caught committing fraud. In fact I think I've heard them say those same basic words in desperation when faced with their loss of their dope man.

Oftentimes stealing from family is the bottom for addicts especially if family turns it...

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feeds@yuku.com (JUSTCATS) — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:38:59 GMT
Her days of cc fraud are numbered. She may be getting away with all of this fraud for awhile, but it will all catch up to her~believe me, I know all about cc fraud. I work for a cc company, in the fraud department. I've heard it all. It's sad that people are so addicted to this frickin substance,(meth) that they will risk going to prison over it~leaving children, family and friends behind and hurting.

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feeds@yuku.com (Eve au naturel) — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:44:57 GMT
Did you know it's against the law to intercept other people's mail and use the contents "to pry into the business or secrets of another?"

I'm not judging if you're right or wrong, but if she or he finds out and pursues it you could be considered the criminal. This snooping could blow up in your face, and I'd really hate that for you. My only advise is not to go around advertising/ bytching that you've found some ammunition against someone by using...

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feeds@yuku.com (Loraura) — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:15:45 GMT
Identity theft is huge these days, with or without drugs in the picture.

I had my debit card number stolen once (not my card, which I still had, but the name, number, exp date, verification number). My best guess is that a waiter at a restaurant was getting paid to supply someone with all the card info he could gather.

They ended up getting a finger print match off a receipt at Denny's.

I was shocked that they had used an actual card. It wasn't a call in...

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feeds@yuku.com (Metheart) — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:33:27 GMT
I used to somtimes make dope at hotel rooms and public storage facilities. As long as there is power running to the place then it's do-able. I remember making it one time in a guys house who was letting me stay there after I was rendered homeless for making it at my own home. He did not even know I was manufacturing it there, I was so addicted and decietful. It was being done ten feet from his computer desk and he was not even aware when sitting at his computer. My point is where there is...

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feeds@yuku.com (luvepiphany) — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:59:38 GMT
I wonder namakimi, if your daughter knows my addict x....He has had girls paying for his storage units for years and he has had all sorts of other people's debit cards(all women) in his car over the years and many of his "friends" stayed in motels. I think it's just part of the lifestyle that the addicts get pulled into if they want to keep doing the drug they are addicted to.

Yes, in our area, Public Storage is a hotspot for cooking, storing stolen goods and...

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feeds@yuku.com (namakimi) — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:30:46 GMT
I just realized that I forgot something. The total charges to this account was $2676.73!! That's in a 24 hour period!!

Yesterday's mail

feeds@yuku.com (namakimi) — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:26:10 GMT

I really hate opening the mail box these days....

In yesterday's crop of doom & gloom I found 3 more of the "prepaid" debit cards, addressed to my stepdaughter!! She's now been missing is action for almost 2 weeks; ever since she bailed her stupid ass out of jail using her father's debit card numbers!

In addition to the 3 new prepaid (with stolen checks) debit card there was a "billing statement" from yet ANOTHER prepaid debit card. I...